{"id":2332,"date":"2015-12-29T00:21:46","date_gmt":"2015-12-29T00:21:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.iuhrdf.org\/en\/2015\/12\/29\/uyghurs-lifesaving-escape-route-turkey-not-ratline-mr-seymour-hersh\/"},"modified":"2015-12-29T00:21:46","modified_gmt":"2015-12-29T00:21:46","slug":"uyghurs-lifesaving-escape-route-turkey-not-ratline-mr-seymour-hersh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/uyghurs-lifesaving-escape-route-turkey-not-ratline-mr-seymour-hersh\/","title":{"rendered":"The Uyghurs\u2019 lifesaving escape route to Turkey is not a ratline Mr. Seymour Hersh"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pulitzer winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh\u2019s latest article on the Syria tragedy, in which he alleges that Pentagon leaders, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dempsey, conducted a secret alliance with Assad and Putin to undermine Obama, sent shockwaves around the internet.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Pulitzer winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh\u2019s&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lrb.co.uk\/v38\/n01\/seymour-m-hersh\/military-to-military\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">latest article<\/a>&nbsp;on the Syria tragedy, in which he alleges that Pentagon leaders, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dempsey, conducted a secret alliance with Assad and Putin to undermine Obama, sent shockwaves around the internet. Especially pro-Assad and Pro-Putin circles greatly enjoyed it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">However as&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/shashj?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">Shashank Joshi<\/a>, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, underlined on twitter, the article is inconsistent and flawed. He explains, \u201cWhat this has in common with Osama bin Laden-conspiracy is over-complicated, convoluted plot and really implausible details. And brought to you by the same cast of totally-legit characters, like \u2018A longtime consultant to America\u2019s intelligence community.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Joshi also gives an example of implausible details. For instance, Hersh would have his readers believe that the U.S. saw Assad as credible on the fate of the Golan Heights in 2013, while he wasn\u2019t able to control many major towns in Syria.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Online news website&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vox.com\/2015\/12\/21\/10634002\/seymour-hersh-syria-joint-chiefs\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">Vox&nbsp;<\/a>also pointed out that the story had three main problems. First it described General Dempsey as a dissident against Obama\u2019s plan to arm Syrian rebels. This is nonsense because Dempsey&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/02\/08\/us\/politics\/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">both publicly and privately<\/a>&nbsp;voiced a desire to do more to arm Syrian rebels. Secondly, Hersh doesn\u2019t provide any sort of proof backing his claims. Finally, the allegation that the Pentagon is conspiring against President Obama is fundamentally at odds with the reality as we know it, Vox said. The American military leadership only follows the commander-in-chief, who is the President of the United States, and there is no apparent precedent for a conspiracy of the sort suggested by Hersh.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>THE UYGHUR PEOPLE ARE OPRESSED<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Having said this, we see that there is a greater problem with this article relating to claims about the Uighur\/Uyghur population. Uygur individuals have been fleeing for<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/us-china-uighurs-idUSBRE86401Z20120705\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">several decades<\/a>&nbsp;from China to Turkey due to oppression that they experience from the Chinese state against their ethnic and religious identity in their homeland, Eastern Turkestan (Xinjiang) province. Turkey naturally provides shelter for this ethnically Turkic population since its Turkish citizenship law requires the state to do so.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">But Hersh claims that Turkey created a \u201cratline\u201d to bring Uyghur foreign fighters to Syria via Turkey, referencing a Syrian regime official. That is a fundamentally flawed allegation since a Syrian regime official would naturally support or propagate such claims. And there are many examples can simply debunk it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">In March 2014, the South China Morning Post&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.scmp.com\/news\/asia\/article\/1448589\/200-suspected-uygurs-rescued-thai-trafficking-camp-may-face-deportation\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">reported<\/a>&nbsp;that 200 people rescued by police from a human trafficking camp in southern Thailand were suspected to be Uyghur Muslims from Xinjiang. There were at least 100 children, most of them toddlers or still breastfeeding, and a pregnant woman. Similar reports were published both in the Asian press and international media because those people were fleeing with their families from a brutal regime; Turkey, much as it has become for Syrians and Iraqis, was their only hope.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">A Turkish academic&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/world\/asia\/la-fg-uighurs-turkey-20150203-story.html\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">says<\/a>&nbsp;that in 2014 alone, 7,000 Uyghur families escaped China and arrived in Turkey after a highly dangerous journey, which can take up to 12 months, either through Thailand, Kyrgyzstan, or Vietnam.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>THEY ARE ANGRY AT CHINESE REGIME<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">The refugees\u2019 anger towards the Chinese regime\u2019s policies was reported on by the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/us-turkey-china-uighurs-insight-idUSKCN0Q10PM20150727\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">Western press<\/a>. One of them told Reuters that the regime didn\u2019t allow them to live as Muslims. \u201cYou can\u2019t pray. You can\u2019t keep more than one Koran at home. You can\u2019t teach Islam to your children. You can\u2019t fast and you can\u2019t go to Hajj. When you\u2019re deprived of your whole identity, what\u2019s the point?\u201d said a refugee named Sumeyye, who fled to Turkey last October with her three children and lives in the basement of a working-class housing block in Istanbul.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">\u201cWe need to live like humans, not like animals,\u201d said Mohammed, 32, to the LA Times, adding that he was jailed for a month without reason and beaten. \u201cI am a Muslim and I love the Koran. Let me live in freedom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>TURKEY OPENLY ACCEPTED THEM<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Turkey openly welcomed these people as refugees, and overall public opinion even pressured the Turkish government to reeact more strongly against the Chinese authorities. Several reports indicate that hundreds of Uyghurs have fled to Turkey in 2015 as well. But one incident received international attention. In July 2015, Thailand sent back to China more than 100 ethnic Uighur refugees, who were detained a year ago in Southern Thailand, an action that drew harsh criticism from the U.N. refugee agency and human rights groups.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>REPATRIATED UYGHURS FACED PUNISHMENT<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">The office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2015\/07\/09\/thailand-uighur-refugees-china_n_7761784.html\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">said<\/a>&nbsp;it was \u201cshocked\u201d and considered Thailand\u2019s action \u201ca flagrant violation of international law.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">That should not surprise anyone because the fate of \u201crepatriated\u201d Uyghurs is grim. Sophie Richardson, the China director of Human Rights Watch, told&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/international\/archive\/2015\/07\/thailand-china-uighur-refugees\/398318\/\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">Atlantic magazine<\/a>that it is very difficult to determine the whereabouts of repatriated refugees within China, which tends to obscure their status. \u201cThe Chinese government\u2019s attitude is basically that the Uighurs are citizens, they\u2019re home, and it\u2019s nobody\u2019s business but theirs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">But those whom outside organizations have managed to track have faced imprisonment\u2014or worse. According to&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hrw.org\/news\/2015\/07\/09\/thailand-100-ethnic-turks-forcibly-sent-china\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">Human Rights Watch<\/a>, an Uighur repatriated from Pakistan in 2007 was executed following his return to China. HRW also said that China is conducting pervasive ethnic discrimination, severe religious repression, and increasing cultural suppression in the Uyghur homeland.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>UYGHURS WERE FLEEING BEFORE ISIS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Uygur refugees have been fleeing China for several decades. New York-based Chinese TV,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ntd.tv\/en\/programs\/news-politics\/china-forbidden-news\/20141115\/248917--hundreds-of-thai-uyghur-migrants-flee-from-repatriation.html#sthash.rQpPuLQD.dpuf\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">NTD TV said<\/a>, \u201cIn the end of 2009, the Cambodian government sent 20 Uyghurs back to China on grounds of \u201cillegal immigration.\u201d In 2011, the Malaysian authorities sent 11 Uyghurs back to China; In 2012, Malaysia again sent 6 Uyghurs back to China. These incidents aroused strong dissatisfaction from the United States, the United Nations, and the Uyghur organizations from around the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">It is a fact that some Uyghurs went to Syria and joined ISIS, but the numbers provided by Hersh are an exaggeration, and they have not been confirmed by any independent organization.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\"><strong>A MINORITY JOINED ISIS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Reuters reported in July that Uyghurs themselves acknowledge that some members of their community have crossed from Turkey to fight alongside Islamic State militants in Syria, but&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/us-turkey-china-uighurs-insight-idUSKCN0Q10PM20150727\" style=\"color: rgb(7, 130, 193);\">say this is a small minority<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">\u201cThese militants lure them, saying they will help them train for the Uighur cause, they will give them weapons and they will support them against China,\u201d Uyghur refugee Adil Abdulgaffar, 49, said in his apartment in Istanbul\u2019s working-class Sefakoy district, next to a bookshelf filled with Muslim prayer books.<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">\u201cI\u2019ve known of people who have gone off to Syria from Turkey with hopes that these promises will come true. But I also know that they very much regret it and would like to come back,\u201d he said. \u201cOur brothers who have been battling for their existence for the past 50 to 60 years are longing for guns. They are also very naive, and open to being tricked.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: sans-serif, Arial, Verdana, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.8px;\">Yes, Mr. Hersh, the journey that you called \u201cratline\u201d is actually a \u201clife line\u201d for hundreds of Uyghurs who are running for their lives. We doubt that you would change your opinion on these allegations, but the information we\u2019ve provided in this article is more than sufficient to show how na\u00efve, superficial, and misinformed your reporting on Turkey and the Uygurs is.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pulitzer winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh\u2019s latest article on the Syria tragedy, in which he alleges that Pentagon leaders, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dempsey, conducted a secret alliance with Assad and Putin to undermine Obama, sent shockwaves around the internet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":2331,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"topic":[],"class_list":["post-2332","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2332"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2332\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2331"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2332"},{"taxonomy":"topic","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iuhrdf.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topic?post=2332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}